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 So, you think you know who is behind the NWO? Not so
until you have read this one. This is a hard
hitting, blockbuster article by a very knowledgeable individual, Eric Jon
Phelps. There is no question that he is not after fame for his
revealing of this brutal and insidiously sinister Order that works in
cowardice behind the scenes. He is putting his life in great danger,
and but for the protection of Jah, he is a dead man.
In publishing it, I will add a number of notes to it. Phelps has great knowledge in this area of the Black Pope and the Jesuits. He may be the foremost expert on the subject in our day. However, this does not make him an expert in other fields, and he says things that are wrong because he is lacking some information. We all need each other, in balance, to see things as they should be seen. That is why I will add some notes to this interview. It IS a powerhouse, and how much balance he has brought to me through that which he exposes!!! People, I full well realize how extensive this study is, and how difficult it will be to thoroughly digest it, along with the included and necessary for understanding links. Especially as busy as everyone is. Let me tell you something. This study IS compulsory if you expect to come into the Overcoming. Much blindness is on everyone who does not understand these matters, and that blindness is causing ground for GREAT DECEPTION that has enveloped the entire earth. If you are not one who is aware of what shall be revealed here in this study, I say as politely as I can, you are a VICTIM of THAT DECEPTION!!! I see this blindness on most of those who e-mail me. I am not picking on anyone with this statement. It is just the way it is folks, and a blindness of which we must ALL come out. This deception is making most of the people ONE WITH THE DEVOURER, and because it is deception, people do not realize what has happened to them. This has caused me to pray much for a way to destroy this blindness, and now I have it. This study is NOT an option for any Overcomer. IT IS A REQUIRED COURSE!!! And, it matters not how much of your time it requires. Being "too busy with the cares of this life" is exactly what our King warned against. The emphasis added in most cases are mine. |
4/15/00 RICK MARTIN So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the
main players on the "conspiracy" playing field? You’ve maybe been hearing
for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of
society who control our world from behind the scenes. You’ve gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguished from the biblical Judeans)
or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the
economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the
Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17
wealthiest so-called "elite" families)—the Rothschilds in England and
Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in Canada, and on and on, comprising
the physical power structure of the New World Order puppets under the
direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional "master deceivers"
commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel" cohorts. While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger
Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing Link
in this entire structure. And I don’t mean a little side issue; I mean a
link so central—yet so well hidden from general public view, and for so
long—that even the most studied of "conspiracy theory" scholars probably
have not put together much of the information that is going to be
presented here. To call the following outlay "controversial" and "sensitive" is about
as mild an understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This
missing link changes the entire slant of the entire playing field! After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally
able to speak with Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on
Tuesday, March 14. There was simply no other way to cover Eric’s historic
masterpiece spanning, literally, five centuries, than to just ask
questions covering huge spans of time and major historical events. It took
us almost four hours to accomplish the task, yet we could easily have gone
on for another forty. We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the
importance of this work by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In
fact, in order to share this material with at least some of the pertinent
backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly after the
interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which will
help you in understanding certain aspects of this magnificently important
and broad-sweeping story. The missing link is surely a central link. Let’s call this story the "Jesuit-Vatican connection" to the unfolding
New World Order agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely
central, yet well hidden, has been this link! There’s a good reason the
secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet remains so intact from
outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to possess such
a collection of information detailing much "censored" data about our true,
otherworldly cultural heritage. When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can’t help but
reflect back on the purposely "adjusted" and watered down and boring
moments in high school history class. Meanwhile, the true history
of what has gone on is dynamic and full of calculated intrigue. In this business, I’ve heard and read a lot of things. But when I had
to pick my jaw up off the floor during the reading of certain historical
portions in Eric’s book—well, let me just say that Truth certainly is
stranger, and far more interesting, than the many fictions we’ve been led
to believe are historical fact. And yet The Truth does fit together like
the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve
such general attention—considering how well controlled and censored is the
publishing business. Thus is the reason for our lengthy presentation of
this most astonishing and critically important material here in The
SPECTRUM. We are in a time of Truth being revealed from all
directions. And there is probably no more fundamental,
mind-rattling, and previous notions-shattering example of that than what
is being presented here. The interview is directly followed by a number of
pertinent excerpts from Eric’s eye-opening book—which will be available
July 1. [Editor’s note: It should be noted up-front that the information
presented below is the studied opinion of Eric Jon Phelps. We here at
The SPECTRUM find much about his presentation of his historical
research which meshes with and expands upon Truth which has been presented
by many other authors in these pages and elsewhere. And that is good;
Truth is Truth is Truth, and should all mesh. However, for the peace of mind of our unique readership—which
typically has cultivated a more aware spiritual perspective than the
general public—we do not want to give the impression that we agree with
(or wish to promote) some collateral aspects of Eric’s presentation having
to do with his personal "religious" convictions. The focus of those
convictions follows a much more biblically conventional (literal) path—in
stark contrast to the unconventional, questioning, wide-angle vision of
his historical material. Generally such opinions are simply allowed to stand on their own—for
you to sort and interpret as you see fit—rather than being singled-out to
be addressed editorially. However, in this case, the practical side of
Eric’s stated religious convictions include the condoning of some degree
of violence (or violent protest) and use of armaments. And such
convictions are very much the opposite of our philosophical position—for
many reasons, not the least of which is the obvious Adversarial
bait-and-entrapment which would result from choosing what we would
consider to be low-frequency responses to schoolroom Earth’s current
challenges. Yet, if the perceptive reader penetrates "between the lines"
thoughtfully, there is glimpsed a recurring commendable spiritual message
in Eric’s commentary—of "Have the courage to speak The Truth" and "God
helps those who help themselves"—which we certainly DO agree with
wholeheartedly and have long supported enthusiastically. We are in the time of the Great Awakening on this
planet. The Light of Truth, intensifying with each passing moment,
is nudging many to step forward and share what they know. Will such ones
follow that nudge or continue to hide in fear? The answer to that question
is perhaps the most important aspect of schoolroom Earth’s relentless
testing at this critical time. One last-minute footnote before beginning this interview: The Arts
& Entertainment (A&E) cable television channel just started to
air—on Easter Sunday evening!—a new two-hour documentary called: The
Vatican Revealed. Tape it so you can study it carefully; within the
lines of dialog and some of those people chosen for commentaries are many,
many clues to the true power of the Vatican over world affairs. It would,
of course, be much more revealing to watch the A&E program AFTER
having read and digested the following.] Martin: Before we begin, let me say a few words. The topic of
your book is so comprehensive and covers, literally, all aspects of global
control by the Jesuits, dating back to 1540. I would like to begin our
conversation with a very important point of clarification so that our
readers have something to hold onto while reading the historical narrative
we are about to present. Let me also add that your book is one of the most
compelling, dynamic, genuinely educational historical documents I have
ever read. I want to tell you, I am impressed! You, literally, link every major global conflict and political
assassination to the hands of the Jesuit Order. The Jews, as with many
other groups you mention, have been the unwitting pawns in this Jesuit
Agenda. Today, the present. I’m going to start here, and then we’re going to go
way back in time and work our way up. But, I want to start HERE because it
will give a foundation for going back in time. Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black
Pope" [black here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or
color] who gives the orders to the actual Pope. Is it still
Jean-Baptist Janssens? Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then
Pedro Arrupe came to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe,
the present Jesuit General is Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo
nearby.] I call him Count Hans Kolvenhoof. Martin: Let’s discuss this position of "General" and, in
addition, who is this person, Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve?
What are his origins? Where does he hail from? Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is
Dutch. Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he? Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits,
called the Church of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what
I just called, the Jesuit headquarters. Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican? Phelps: It’s not far from the Vatican, right. It’s in the same
general area. It’s headquarters of the Knights of Malta. Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper? Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is. Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the
ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus? Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals,
they are sorcerers. They are
Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer.
They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer. Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a top
Jesuit at the time in the late ’60s—he was invited to a "Black Mass" in
Spain where there were quite a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he
called it a "Black Mass". Well, when you’re involved in a "Black Mass",
you’re involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their black
capes and so on. Martin: I’m fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because nobody
in the world knows who this person is. I’ve never heard the name. Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture and
his top Jesuits—just a second and I’ll get the book. The name of the book
is called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography, by Jean Lacoutre, and that is
available, usually, in the bookstores. It was published in 1995. Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On
the last page of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page 343,
you see Peter Hans Kolvenbach. He’s the Jesuit General, and he looks like
just a very evil individual. There’s a Black man, who’s a high Jesuit,
he’s a 29 Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General staff. One of the
General staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler’s List. There are
six White men, and one Black man. And that’s his General staff. Martin: What is the process of choosing a successor
General? Phelps: The High Jesuits elect him, and he’s elected for
life—unless he becomes a "heretic". Martin: And the so-called "High Jesuits" represent what
group? Phelps: I would say that they’re the "professed", the high 4th
Degree. When a Jesuit is professed, he is under the Jesuit Oath; he
is under the "Bloody Oath" that I have in my book. Martin: Do we have permission to reprint that Oath in our
paper? Phelps: Of course, absolutely. Martin: One of my questions has to do with the Oath and
it’s similarity to the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion, and
I wrote that question before I got back to the Protocols portion of
your book. Phelps: The Jesuits obviously wrote the
Protocols because they have carried out every
protocol in that little handbook. They have carried everything out. And,
Alberto Rivera says—and he was a Jesuit—he was greatly maligned, not
helped at all by the Apostate, Protestants, and Baptists in this country;
he was helped, somewhat, by Jack Chick. Jack Chick published his story in
six volumes, titled Alberto I, II, III, IV, V, & VI. Alberto Rivera says that it was Jews aligned
with the Pope who published the Protocols. Well, I
tend to feel that it was just the Jesuits themselves because they, and
they alone, were the ones who were able to bring this to pass.
They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind
professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of
Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top
owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta,
getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports,
while they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the
things in the Protocols—that they would create "amusements". Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree
Freemason—Disneyworld, Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey, with
Hersey Park. They create all of these amusements and games and
pastimes to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they’re busy
overthrowing the Protestant form of government. Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this? Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the
Mafia. But all the high Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they are
ALL subordinate to the Pope or to the Cardinal of New York, which is
Cardinal O’Connor—because the Commission, the Mafia Commission resides in
New York. Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was intimate,
personal friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe Kennedy. And
that has not changed. So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia
Dons—the Gambinos, the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And
they control Hollywood, not the Jews. It’s only Jews who are
front-men who are involved in Hollywood and working for the Mafia and for
the Cardinal, just like in politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen
Spector was Spelly’s [Cardinal Spellman’s] Jew in the assassination
[of President Kennedy], and he would never say a word about
it. Martin: Now, as we go through here, if there’s anything that you
don’t want me to print, please let me know because, literally, I’m going
to print everything we say in this conversation. Phelps: That’s fine, that’s fine with me because it needs to be
said. Martin: Let’s get back to Count Hans Kolvenbach. I want to shine
the spotlight on this guy for just a little bit here. Let’s talk about
him. What does he do? Who is he? Let’s talk about his position as
"General". How do they exercise this control over the Pope? Does the Pope
know he’s a pawn? Phelps: Ok, one question at a time. So, which question do you
want me to deal with? Martin: Let’s just shine the light right on the Count. Phelps: The Jesuit General, ok. Martin: Let’s start there, and you tell me everything you want
to tell me about that position. Phelps: The Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and total
dictator and autocrat of the Order. When he speaks, his provincials move.
The provincials are his major subordinates. There are around 83
provincials right now. As I understand it, the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83
regions. Ok? For each region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are 10
provincials in the United States. There is one for Central America. There
is one for Ireland. They’ve divided up the world into these
provinces. So it’s old Babylonian provincial government, centered in
Nebuchadnezzar or the Jesuit General himself; so it’s strictly a Roman
form of government where all the states or provinces are subordinate to
this worldwide sovereign.
The Jesuit General exercises full and complete power over the Order. He
meets with his provincials. When they decide to start a war or an
agitation, he gets the information from the provincial of that country,
how best to go about this, the demeanor of the people, and then he uses
legitimate grievances to foam an agitation—like the 1964 Civil Rights
Movement. That was ALL a Jesuit agitation, completely, because the end
result was more consolidation of power in Washington with the 1964 Civil
Rights Act that was written by [the longtime President of the
University of Notre Dame, the Reverend] Theodore Hesburgh. The Jesuit General rules the world through his provincials. And the
provincials then, of course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are many
Jesuits who are not "professed", so many of the lower Jesuits have no idea
what’s going on at the top. They have no concept of the power of their
Order. It’s just like Freemasonry. The lower Freemasons have no idea that the
High Shriner Freemasons are working for the Jesuit General. They think
that they’re just doing works and being good people. But the bottom line
is that the high-level Freemasons are subject, also, to the Jesuit General
because the Jesuit General, with Fredrick the Great, wrote the High
Degrees, the last 8 Degrees, of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry when
Fredrick protected them when they were suppressed by the Pope in
1773. So, you have the alignment with the Jesuit Order and the most powerful
Freemason they had in the craft, Fredrick the Great, during their
suppression. That is an irrefutable conclusion. And then, when you see the
Napoleonic Wars, the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars carried out
by Freemasonry, everything Napoleon did, and the Jacobins, whatever they
did, completely benefited the Jesuit Order. It’s to this end that Alexander Dumas wrote his The Count Of Monte
Cristo. The Count is the Jesuit General. Monte=Mount, Cristo=Christ.
The Count of the Mount of Christ. Alexander Dumas was talking about the
Jesuit General getting vengeance when the Jesuits were suppressed, and
many of them were consigned to an island, three hours sailing, West, off
the coast of Portugal. And so, when the Jesuits finally regained their
power, they punished all of the monarchs of Europe who had suppressed
them, drove them from their thrones, including the Knights of Malta from
Malta, using Napoleon. And Alexander Dumas, who fought for the Italian patriots
in 1848, to free Rome from the temporal power of the Pope, wrote many
books and one of the books was to expose this, and that was The
Count Of Monte Cristo. So, when you read that book, bear in mind that it’s really a satire on
the Jesuit Order regaining their power in France. The Count of Monte
Cristo has an intelligence apparatus that can’t be beat. Well, that’s the
Jesuit Order. But the Count doesn’t get what he really ought to have, or his last
wish, and that’s the love of woman. He gains back all of his political
power; he gains back everything he lost; but he doesn’t have the love of a
woman. And THAT is the Jesuit Order. They have no women. They have no love
of a woman. Because to have a wife, to have a woman, means you have an
allegiance to your wife and family, and you cannot obey the General.
That’s why they will NEVER be married, and that’s one of the great
KEYS to their success. They can betray a nation and walk away. They can betray all the Irish
Catholics getting on the Titanic, and walk away. They can betray us
in Vietnam and walk away. They can betray us every time we go to the
hospital and get radiated and cut and drugged, and walk away, because it’s
"for the greater glory of God"—Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam: the greater glory
of the god who sits in Rome. Martin: What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits? Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the
Pope of their making, from Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. That’s
their ultimate goal. Martin: And why is Solomon’s Temple rebuilt so important? Phelps: Because the Jesuits have always wanted that. When
Ignatius Loyola first started the Order, one of the first things he did
was, he wanted to go to Jerusalem and set up the Jesuit headquarters
there. So, he went there, he tried to do it and failed, came back, went to
school, started his Latin studies, etc. Maybe it might be a good idea to
just review a little bit about Ignatius Loyola. Martin: Yes. Phelps: Ok, Ignatius Loyola was a Spanish soldier, and he was
wounded at a battle between the French and the Spanish, and his leg was
shattered. Well, the French General, because Loyola was very brave in
conflict, ordered his own doctors to attend Loyola. So they set the leg
and sent him back to his home—which, of course, he was royalty to the
Counsel of Loyola in Spain, in the area of the Basques. Loyola, through his series of desiring to regain his leg—it had healed
improperly, so he made a rack where he would stretch the leg, with severe,
horrible, awful pain—and trying to stretch this leg to get it back to
normal shape, he endured awful, terrible pain. He had it rebroken, again,
a couple of times and it still did not heal properly, so he had a
perpetual limp. He could no longer be the courtier among women, and as a
result, he went into this depression, and he then had this vision of the
saints, etc., etc., and he wrote his spiritual exercises. I will stop at the spiritual exercises, just for a minute, but I’ll
take up from there. Loyola then wanted to form an army, but when this
happened with his spiritual exercises, those spiritual exercises would be
basic training for all of his Jesuits. That’s what they will ALL go
through. That’s what every Jesuit goes through today. One of the maxims of the spiritual exercises is that if my superior
says "black is white and white is black", then that’s the way it is. That
is in his spiritual exercises. That is what is quoted in JFK, when
Kevin Costner is telling his people: "Hey, people, we’ve got to start
thinking like the CIA. Black is white and white is black." That was a
Jesuit giveaway that the Jesuits produced that movie, because they’re
quoting Ignatius Loyola in that movie from his spiritual exercises. So, Loyola had an indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he set
his mind to regain back what the Papacy had lost to the Reformation. And
so, he went to the Pope, and the Pope in 1540 then created the Jesuit
Order. But this man is a soldier, he’s a lawyer, and he put together a
legion of soldiers and warriors to get back what Rome had lost, as well as
institute a World Government for the Pope, from Jerusalem. This was in
1540. He started the Order in 1536. He was arrested by the Inquisition, and
he was released, and he went to the Pope; he threw himself at the feet of
the Pope. He would be completely at his service. The Pope chartered him,
and that Pope was Pius III. The Pope chartered them, created the Jesuit
Order; now he has Papal protection, and they began their awful history of
deeds of blood. And war after war after war after war, they’re all
attributed to the Jesuit Order in some way. Catholic nobles, with lots of
money, donated castles and schools and money to the Jesuit Order. Virtually everything they own has been given to them or stolen by them.
Of course, they stole all of the fortunes of the Jews in World War II.
They stole all their gold, all their assets and everything, whenever they
went into a country. What’s just been released is NOTHING compared to what
they’ve taken. In Edmond Paris’s book, printed by Ozark Publications, called The
Vatican Against Europe, it gets into great detail of what they did. It
calls it—the last 30 years of war is all attributable to the Jesuits,
their massacres of the Serbs and Jews, etc. But Edmond Paris did not
understand that the Jesuit General—and this is one of the most important
points I want to make about Von Kolvenbach—the Jesuit General is in
complete control of the international intelligence community: that’s the
CIA, the FBI, the KGB, the Israeli Mossad, the German BND, the British
SIS. The Jesuit General is in COMPLETE CONTROL of the entire intelligence
apparatus—FBI, every bureaucratic agency in this country, all of it; he is
in complete control of it. So, whenever he wants to find something out about an individual, they
put in the Social Security number, and everything from all of the
intelligence apparatus kicks-in and he and his provincials can review
everything about that man. Credit cards, you name it, everything that’s
attached to Rome’s social security number, which FDR put upon us in
1933 with the help of Spellman; at the time, I believe he was Archbishop,
or maybe it was Cardinal Hayes—but Rome was behind FDR in putting him in
office. The couple of things that he did was implement social insecurity, the
income tax, and recognizing Joseph Stalin’s bloody Jesuit USSR
government. So, with the giving of us the Social Security number, that
is Rome’s number—that’s why I refuse to use it—and that’s why they want
everybody using it for everything: driver’s license, tax return, credit
card, everything you do, that number is you and that number is
Rome’s number. Martin: Let me just back-up here for a minute. What comes to
mind is Louis Freeh, head of the FBI. Phelps: Roman Catholic, good altar boy. Probably a Knight of
Columbus; I can’t prove it. But anybody with that kind of power has got to
be a Knight of Columbus. And the Knights of Columbus implement Jesuit politics. And Louis Freeh
was the one behind the Waco atrocity and the Oklahoma City bombing
atrocity. And his top sniper was a Japanese Roman Catholic named Lon
Horiuchi. So, it’s Roman Catholics in control, Knights in control of the FBI, who
carried out all of this killing. And those two men, Louis Freeh and Lon
Horiuchi are personally accountable to Cardinal O’Connor of
New York. And Cardinal O’Connor of New York is the most powerful Cardinal
in the country. He is the military vicar. And that’s why Bush kissed his
fanny for going to Bob Jones, because Cardinal O’Connor
is the King of the American Empire. And he rules his Empire from
that Palace, St. Patrick’s Cathedral, "the little Vatican". Martin: And is he in contact, do you think, with
Kolvenbach? Phelps: Of course. O’Connor himself is not a Jesuit, but the
Jesuits are like the SS of the Catholic Church. They maintain order. And the ones closest to him who maintain order are the Jesuits of
Fordham University. Now, one of them—the head of Fordham University, I
believe he is an Irishman, is also a member of the CFR [Council on
Foreign Relations]. And I have that right here in the Annual Report of
the CFR of 1993. Those Jesuits at Fordham maintain semblance and rule over
the Cardinal in New York. And, of course, the powerful Jesuits of Fordham
include Avery Dulles and John Foster Dulles, one of the writers of the
book on the Second Vatican Council. Martin: Let’s back-up now, let’s go back. What’s the Council of
Trent? Phelps: The Council of Trent was the response of Rome to the
Protestant Reformation. Remember—the Protestant Reformation brought us all
of the political liberty that we know of today. There’s no such thing as
national sovereignty without the Reformation. There’s no such thing as
private rights without the Reformation. There’s no such thing as the Law
of Nations, as we know of it today, of Montesquieu and the others, without
the Reformation. So, when the Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by
grace through faith alone, and that there was no need for the priesthood
to go to Heaven—that all we need is salvation in Christ, and Romans
1:17: the righteous shall live by faith. When the Reformation came, it
completely stripped Rome of its spiritual power. The priests were no
longer wanted because the people were getting the word of God in a
Bible, specifically in Holland, England, and Germany. And so, with
these great revivals breaking forth and the Reformation happening, nations
were breaking away from the power of the Pope. The Holy Roman Empire was
breaking up. Charles V, the Emperor, resigned and became a monk and a
gardener. So, the Lord was moving mightily in breaking the power of the
Holy Roman Empire, started by Charlemagne and the Pope. Well, this was not good for Rome because they were losing lots of
money. The nations were not paying "Peter’s pence" anymore, which today we
call "foreign aid" in this country. And so the Pope was very upset about
his. What’s he going to do? These nations are breaking away from us; they’re
not under our temporal or spiritual power; and it’s very important to
remember that the Pope claims two powers—spiritual and temporal—and with
the breaking of his spiritual power, he then lost his temporal power. In
other words, he no longer had the ability to rule the people through the
king of the country, because the king was breaking away, like Henry
VIII. So, Henry VIII broke away from the Roman Church and formed the Church
of England; he no longer was subject to the Pope. This was happening in
England, in Germany, in Holland, and other places. As a result of this, the Devil raised up Ignatius Loyola with his
demonisms, his "spiritual exercises" and—because Loyola had been a member
of the Spanish Alumbrados, which is what we call the
Illuminati today, and he used the Jesuit Order to attempt to regain back
what had been taken by the Reformation—what the Lord had done through
Luther, Calvin, and Knox. And, by the way, Luther, Calvin, and Knox—none
of those men died violent deaths. They all lived to older age and died
peacefully, amidst the power of the Jesuit machinations. The Council of Trent consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions accurse
and condemn all the doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns anybody who
does not believe that the literal Jesus Christ is in the host [holy
communion bread], and that his literal blood is in the wine. That’s
called transubstantiation. Anybody who does not believe that is an
accursed anathema. Anybody who believes that their salvation is outside
the Catholic Church is accursed anathema. Anybody who believes in
justification by grace through faith—anathema, accursed. Anybody who
believes that the Pope is not the vicar of Christ—accursed, anathema. You
see, all of these doctrines were being put forth as a result of reading
the Bible, which produced the Reformation, and so the Jesuits
accursed everything that the Reformers were preaching. This is all in Law
called the Council of Trent. In the 4th Session, which is probably the most important Session, the
Jesuits condemn freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of
conscience. So, no man has the right to choose his own religion; no man
has the right to publish what he feels is the truth; and no man has the
right to freedom of conscience. Those rights were secured by our Baptist/Calvinist forefathers in the
First Amendment. The man who wrote the First Amendment was
James Madison, who was a Baptist/Calvinist, and he was told by that
Baptist/Calvinist in Virginia, Doc. John Leland: "If you don’t secure all
those rights, Virginia will not ratify the Constitution." Virginia
was a Baptist/Calvinist state. So, we have a warfare between the Council of Trent and the doctrines of
the Reformation, particularly as outlined by John Calvin in his
Institutes Of The Christian Religion. Calvin [1536]
wrote the Institutes Of The Christian Religion, he finished it
when he was 27, and he dedicated it to the King of France. And because the
Jesuits so hated him, he was driven from France and he resided in Geneva
to the day of his death, when he became Governor of Geneva. It’s Calvin
and his Institutes Of The Christian Religion vs. Loyola and his
Council of Trent, if you want it sewed-up in two major documents. Martin: Council of Trent was what year? Phelps: From 1545-1563, eighteen years. And Trent is a little
town in Italy. So, it was a Council that took place in the town of Trent,
Italy. The Presbyterian Westminster Confession And Faith that was
finished in 1648, after the 30 Years War, is another extension of Calvin’s
Institutes, and is what the Church of Scotland and the
Covenanters went by when they resisted the powers of Rome
and England. That document is a major document, and it’s not the new
Westminster Confession, it’s the old one of 1648, where they called
the Pope the man of sin, that Roman Anti-Christ, and they also denounced
anti-Christian tyranny. And that it is their duty, to use what they call "the sword of the
spirit", which is the Word of God, which we read in Ephesians, Chapter
6, and "the sword of just defense"—the gun, the sword. So, us Calvinists believe that there is a time for peace and a time for
war, and we do not refuse to go to the battlefield when it’s necessary. It
was the Calvinists who gave us our political liberty in England with
Cromwell. He was a Calvinist and an independent Baptist. It was Calvinists
in Holland who gave the Dutch their political liberty, with William of
Orange, and later his son, Prince Maurice, and then later, in our great
country, when it was Washington, the Freemason who did not go into that
Masonic Lodge the last 30 years of his life—in his own words—who was a
Baptist and a Calvinist. He was baptized in the First Baptist Church of
New York by one of his captains, Pastor Gano, all surrounded by
Calvinists. That’s why they didn’t surrender at Valley Forge; that’s why, when they
were naked, when they went through the snow, barefoot, they endured that
because they were Bible-believing Calvinists and they refused to
submit to the tyranny of King George, who was controlled by the
Jesuits. And that is the soul of our country. If we lose that soul, we’ve lost
everything. And those very same Baptists, in the Second Amendment,
secured their right to bear arms, because they secured the right, the
"sword of just defense". And the "sword of the spirit" is contained in the
First Amendment, the right to have the Bible never taken
from them. The two swords of Calvinism are secured in the First and
Second Amendments. Without those first two Amendments, all
the others are nothing. Martin: Well, I got to my question #2. So, let’s go to #3 of the
seventy. (laughter) How does Shriner Freemason President Harry Truman’s signing into law of
the Emergency War Powers Act of 1950 factor into the Jesuit Agenda? Phelps: First of all, Harry Truman, who the Japanese called
"Dirty Harry"—when they heard the movie Dirty Harry came out, they
thought it was a movie about Harry Truman, according to my Japanese pastor
friend, Daniel Fuji, who has passed away. Harry Truman was put in office by the Jesuits, the Pensergast
Democratic machine in Missouri. Harry Truman takes over
after FDR’s murder, because he was murdered in the home of Bernard Baruch.
When he did that, he then finished up the war with the hoax called the
dropping of the nuclear bombs, to purposely create this greater hoax
called the Cold War, that would enable the Vatican to knock over country
after country after country, and replace the leaders with dictators,
subordinate to the Pope. That was the purpose of the Cold War. And so, when Harry Truman in 1950 signed into law the Emergency War
Powers Act, the Cold War was in full force. They were building bomb
shelters, etc. So the nation was in kind of a frenzy. When he signed this into law, it put the whole country under
military or martial law, and that’s when the flags in every
courtroom, state and federal, began to be changed. And every state flag
and every U.S. flag is now trimmed in gold fringe. And
whenever you see a flag trimmed in gold fringe, that means that it is the
flag of the Commander-in-Chief. Now, if it’s the state flag, it means
that’s the flag of the governor, as Commander-in-Chief. And if it’s the
federal flag, or the national flag, more correctly, it’s the flag of the
Commander-in-Chief in Washington. So, all your courts are nothing more than courts of military
rule. They all proceed with summary procedures. The jury has no
power of jury nullification. And they are simply enforcing the laws of the
Empire, which I call 14th Amendment America, which is a
military-style, King of England-style country. The courts are nothing more
than courts of the king’s bench, as you can see in Blackstone’s
Commentaries. And the banks, as you walk into every bank, they all have a flag
trimmed in gold fringe. The bank is what England would call, in
Blackstone’s day, the king’s bank. So, we have the king’s bank, and we
have the king’s bench. And it’s run according to military rule, according
to Berkheimer’s great work Military Rule And Martial Law, published
in 1914. When Harry Truman did this, there was a consummation of a great plan to
put us under the Emergency War Powers Act and, actually, a war rule.
"Daylight savings time" is what was called "war time". This country only
went to daylight savings time during World War II, and they called it, at
that time, war time. So, nothing’s changed. We’ve never gone back to not
turning back our clocks. We’re still on war time. The income tax is a war
tax. It was called a victory tax in 1942. So, people are paying a war tax, they’re under war time, they’re under
an emergency war powers act, and the courts are war courts. Martin: Regarding the assassination of President John Kennedy,
which could take this entire interview, you say that the
assassination was ordered by the Jesuit General, executed by Pope Paul VI,
and carried out by the "American Pope", Francis Cardinal Spellman—who, in
turn, used the Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of Columbus,
and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to carry out the order from
Rome. Would you explain why you believe your particular theory on the
assassination to be an accurate representation of the facts? Phelps: Sure. Alright, number one: The powers that be are
properly outlined [in his book], and proven through two centuries
of showing how it’s all been put together. Now, as to why, I will be
conservative and stick with Fletcher Prouty’s reasons, that he outlined in
his JFK and also his other book called The Secret Team. The reason why Kennedy was assassinated was he wanted to end the
Vietnam War, and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA. That begets two
questions: Did Rome want the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the CIA?
The answer is yes on both counts. We know, on its face, that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly’s
War"—Cardinal Spellman’s war. He went over to the warfront many times and
he called the American soldiers the "soldiers of Christ". The man who was
the Commander of the American forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR member,
possibly a Knight of Columbus, I don’t know, but he was General William
Westmoreland. So, Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s agent to make sure that war
was prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was Cardinal
Spellman’s boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a
33rd-degree Freemason. He was also part of the assassination, with J.
Edgar Hoover, another 33rd-degree Freemason. And Johnson went to Cardinal Spellman’s death at St. Patrick’s
Cathedral, and the picture can be seen in Cooney’s work The American
Pope. So, Johnson was completely at the beck and call of Cardinal
Spellman through Cartha DeLoach, the 3rd-in-control of the FBI. According
to Curt Gentry, in his Hoover: The Man And The Secrets,
DeLoach had a phone at his bedside direct to Johnson, and
Johnson could call him anytime. DeLoach was a Knight of Malta, subject to
Spellman. Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by the
Jesuits of Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam War? The
people of Vietnam, the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They would not
convert to Catholicism. They didn’t need Rome. There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had
been decided that about a million or so Buddhists would have to be
"purged". They would later continue this purge of Cambodia, with Pol Pot,
and the purge is yet for Thailand. It was a purging of Laos, Cambodia, and
Vietnam of all these Buddhists, just like they purged the Buddhists of
China with Mao Zedong, because Mao Zedong was completely controlled by the
Jesuits. So, they wanted the Vietnam War. The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The
Vatican controls all of the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the
opium, all of the cocaine, everything going around in Columbia. Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with
the Pope. Hitler had a concordat. Mussolini had a concordat.
Franco had a concordat. They want to set up a concordat
here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing the sovereign
state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever had was
Ronald Reagan. So, they had a concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think that
drugs running out of Columbia, with a country that has a concordat with
Rome, is not controlled by Rome? If Rome didn’t want the drug trade out of
Columbia, they’d end the concordat. The whole drug trade is run by high
Mafia families out of the country of Columbia, subject to the Jesuit
General. And the Jesuit General ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries ago,
out of China. They ran the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie
Shogun is but a slight scratching of the surface of the Jesuit
"black ships" that trafficked in all of this silk and pearls and gold and
opals and everything they could pull out of the East, including
opium. The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive
drug-trade that would inundate every American city with drugs, being
brought in by the CIA with their Air America, and then distributed by the
Trafficante family throughout the United States—Santos
Trafficante out of Miami. So we have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug trade. We
have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the assassination of
Kennedy. The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time,
Jean-Baptist Janssens] wanted Kennedy out of the way was because he
was going to end the Vietnam War. The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA, because
the CIA had betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not giving
the cover to the Cuban patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman Catholic,
Jesuit-trained, grease-ball bastard—he was a bastard, his father was a
Nazi—Fidel Castro. Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which
sacrificed all the patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so
Castro had no real opposition. This was the same tactic, used by the CIA
and the KGB at the top, working together with Angleton controlling it, in
the Hungarian Revolution, when the CIA fomented that revolution, and then
betrayed all of those patriots into the hands of the Soviet army and KGB,
which infuriated certain top CIA officials. It’s the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice the
men who truly want to resist. When that happened, when McGeorge Bundy
stopped the air cover of the Bay of Pigs invasion, that ended that
resistance to Castro and it enthroned him into power. And, of course, it
was meant to be by the Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So now
Kennedy looks bad. He’s got egg all over his face. What does he want to
do? He signs a Memorandum, according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes all of
the power away from the CIA, and gives it to the Joint Chiefs of
Staff. The CIA was built by the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of the
CIA was "Wild" Bill Donovan, an Irish Roman Catholic, who
are the most fanatical, and his brother was a Dominican priest, Vincent.
So, the CIA was founded by this high Roman Catholic, the first head, to
solidify the Catholic or the Vatican control of it. I’m not against the Catholic people; I’m against Rome’s hierarchy. The
American Catholic people know NOTHING of what’s going on. And if they did,
there would be a march on St. Patrick’s tomorrow morning. So, as I’m
against the hierarchy, I’m showing that Kennedy was against the Vietnam
War, and he was going to do away with the CIA. Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers into
the CIA because the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in Europe.
When the Einsatzgruppen went into Russia, the Jesuits followed with the SS
and purged Western Russia of all its Jews. That’s why Stalin deliberately
killed 40,000 of his best officers. That’s why he kicked out his best
generals, purged them, because he wanted to make sure that the Red Army
would lose with the advance of the German army, because following that
would come the SS and purge Russia of the Jews that Stalin so hated. And
by the way, justice is often poetic because Stalin’s daughter married a
Jew.
Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and the
intelligence arm—of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were throughout.
Casey was a Knight of Malta. Angleton was a Knight of Malta. The Knights
were through and through. Angleton manned the "Vatican desk", and that is
a desk within the CIA that has a direct link to the Vatican. So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community". That was the
end of him. Thus for anyone attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the
Vietnam War, and also because he attacked the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve
Bank by printing United States Notes, they got rid of him. They killed our
only Roman Catholic president. And it’s another piece of poetic justice that a Roman Catholic—not
Protestants, like Harry Truman, FDR, and others—it’s a Roman Catholic who
truly sought to resist the temporal power of the Pope in this country. And
in many ways, even though Kennedy was, in fact, a socialist and communist,
at least he resisted the temporal power of the Pope. And for that we
should be thankful and remember his name. But what have they done to his name? They’ve slammed it. They drag it
into the dirt. Every time you see it on TV, they parade before you his
womanizing, which I don’t deny, but my goodness, can’t we give him some
credit where credit is due? That’s why they got rid of John F.
Kennedy. And then, of course, as soon as he’s assassinated, John McCone, the
head of the CIA, the following day goes to the White House and they
reverse Kennedy’s Memorandum of reversing the Vietnam War and make a
full-scale, carte blanche war. The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a CIA
war. And there they tried all of their new technology, their anti-gravity
machines, their men who they’re trying to make like the "million-dollar
man". They tried out all their new technology in Vietnam. It was a great
experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and he knew that
the American people had no idea what was going down, and he still tried to
resist it, against his father’s warnings. Because his father was the most
powerful Knight of Malta in the Empire. Martin: Any theories on why they took out junior? Phelps: Yes. According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication, John
F. Kennedy, Jr. wanted to find his father’s real killers, and he had the
power to publish the conclusion. So, they took him out right away. They
would not allow that to happen. Martin: Why haven’t you been taken out? Phelps: Because I am immortal—until the Lord is done with me. I
am a Calvinist and a Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God.
And as long as we are operating in His Will, they cannot touch us,
regardless of their power. Martin: Which is why we’re having this conversation. Phelps: Which is why we’re having the conversation. Don’t think
for one moment they’re not tapping this phone. They know this. The issue
is here. We’re talking about a providential, sovereign God who wishes to
move, using second causes, men, just as the Devil does. The Devil always uses second causes, men. So, it’s
one group of men vs. another group of men, and one path leads to
evil, and the true, almighty God leads to goodness.
The problem is, with us, there are very few men who want to believe God
anymore. Nobody believes He can deliver anymore. It’s just a handful of us
who say: "Well, we’re going to do His Will; we’re going to trust Him in
His Power." And like the Hebrews getting ready to be thrown into the fiery furnace
of Nebuchadnezzar, our God is able to deliver us. We’re going to tell the
truth! Martin: Let’s see here. I can throw away a lot of these
questions. So much of it seems, in a way, irrelevant to our current times
because there’s so much going on now. But, good grief! I was just stunned
to read in your book of all the historical things that have happened as a
result of these evil people. You dedicated the book to four Roman
Catholics who, I’m sure, no one has ever heard of: Charles Chiniquy,
Jeremiah Crowley, Emmett McLaughlin, and Alberto Rivera. Why them? Phelps: Because those Roman Catholic men were priests; they left
the priesthood and told the truth about what was really happening. And all
four of them, except one, I think Emmett McLaughlin, paid with their life.
Chiniquy was the great exposer of the Jesuit assassination of President
Lincoln, when he wrote his masterpiece Fifty Years In The Church Of
Rome in 1886. He proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the
Jesuits, and that it was covered-up by our government at the
time. Jeremiah Crowley: that priest was a great Irishman who came here and,
seeing the corruption of the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was so
corrupt, he left it and exposed it. And, of course, he later came to
Christ and became a Bible-believer, which they would call a
Protestant. Protestants today don’t believe the Bible.
Protestantism of today is an empty shell, it’s nothing. But, back then, in
1912, they believed the Bible. Crowley, then, exposed many things, and one of the things he exposed,
that helped me with this, was that he warned that the Jesuits, with their
Knights of Columbus—which, he says, the Knights of Columbus, named after
Columbus, who he tells us was a Spanish Jew and a pirate and a deflowerer
of young girls—that Columbus was no Christian. He has a tremendous section in his book on Columbus. That the purpose
of the Knights of Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics, and part of
those politics was to restore the temporal power of the Pope because, you
remember, the Pope had lost that in 1870 and they wanted to get it back.
And they got it back with Mussolini in 1929. Well, in the book that Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and
Teddy Roosevelt were all cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of New
York. And he said they’re going to use our military to restore the Pope’s
temporal power around the world. And THAT was absolutely correct. That is American foreign
policy. And the Council of Trent is the American foreign policy of today.
That’s what’s going on in Serbia and Bosnia. It’s the Council of Trent—the
Jesuits using the American Air Force to bomb those orthodox people to
smithereens. But, that was Crowley’s great contribution. Next, Emmett McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The
People’s Padre; he wrote Crime And Immorality In The
Catholic Church, showing that Catholic nations are more lawless and
more criminal than Protestant nations, and he proved it with statistics
from the jails. Emmett McLaughlin also wrote another book called The Assassination
Of Abraham Lincoln, where he, again, shows that Lincoln was
assassinated by the Jesuits. So, Emmett McLaughlin came out of the
Catholic Church. To my knowledge, he never was born again. He never was
saved, but he did tell the truth. He married a nun, and lived a virtuous
and honorable life after he left. The last one was, of course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by
the Vatican because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the
late ’60s, about 1969, exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical
movement, that Rome controlled Kathryn Kuhlman; that Rome controlled
Billy Graham; that Rome controlled, virtually, our government—Ronald
Reagan. Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating
that this country will ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera
converted to Christ, wonderfully, and he started a ministry called The
Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los Angeles. They tried to kill him five times. A dentist jammed a needle up between
his teeth, trying to give him an infection in the brain. When he passed
out, about a year or so later, they couldn’t figure it out. Everybody was
praying for him. And this was discovered when he went to another dentist.
He had it removed. He was pushed in front of a subway train. They tried five times to kill
the man, and finally he died, I believe, of cancer, in a hospital, about
three years ago. But these four wonderful, great, Catholic priests did
their best to expose the power of Rome and its attempts to destroy our
sovereign, Protestant, Bible-believing nation. And so, to them, I
dedicate it. Martin: What compelled you to write this book? What started it
for you? Phelps: I was always taught to be a patriot, a patriot first and
foremost—America first, and everybody else second. Later, when I came to
know the Lord, at 17, I realized the Bible taught the same
thing—that the Lord had instituted nations. The Lord never instituted
world governments; that’s always the result of the Devil’s working. So, being a patriot and a nationalist—believing in national
sovereignty—I was saved at 17, went into the Air Force, was garrisoned in
a nuclear weapons area for three years in Germany, came back and started
to go to Bible college. When I went to Bible college, the issue of the
King James came up, as far as it being an archaic version. And
that’s what I used and I had never given it a thought. Well, some were
using NIV, some NASB, and I thought: "Well, maybe it’s just a modern
version of what I have here." And I thought: "Well, if they want to use
that, that’s fine, but I’ll use the King James." I found that the underlying Greek text for the King James, the
Textus Receptus, was the Greek text of the Reformation. It
represents 95% of the existing manuscripts that we have today. The Greek
text that underlies all these other versions—there’s a Westcott and Hort
Greek text, which I then discovered was really a conspiracy to adulterate
the Textus Receptus in England, led by Brooke Foss Westcott and
Anthony Hort, who were Maryolitors, Mary-worshippers. Later, I found out that they had invited Cardinal Newman to sit in on
the revision committee. Well, Cardinal Newman was a traitor to the
Anglican Church, with his Track 90, which blew-off the Anglican
Church. He then left England and he was then a Cardinal by Pius
IX. So, here we have Cardinal Newman, and E. B. Pusey, had been invited to
sit on this revision committee, the end result being a Greek text that had
been produced that was pro-Jerome’s Latin Vulgate. Jerome’s
Latin Vulgate is the basis for the Jesuit’s Reheims-Douay
text, that was put out in 1582, that was attempting to rival William
Tyndale’s English text, which later became the King James Version
of 1611. So now I see this awful Jesuit hand in my Bible college,
attempting to deprive me of the Word of God, the authorized version of
1611, in it’s present edition of 1769. Now I thought "Well, here the
Jesuits are, what else have they done?" And the next thing I was led to
was the Lincoln assassination. And I can remember reading Burke McCarty’s
The Suppressed Truth About The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln,
and weeping in the back room, when I was in college. Martin: For me, one of the most compelling portions of your book
was the series of revelations about Lincoln. I was stunned by that. Phelps: That’s what they did. Remember, Lincoln was not going to
go along with the 14th Amendment. He wanted those Southern states
to re-enter the Union on the same footing that they had left, which would
have left us with a federal Republic as Washington had established it.
This the Jesuits would not allow. It would be converted into an Empire.
The states would be subordinate provinces to Washington. And the
14th Amendment would accomplish this with the reversion of
citizenship. And Lincoln was re-elected, and he was ready to end this, and
that’s why they killed him. Kennedy was ready to implement his
things; they would not let him be re-elected. Martin: This is a total aside. Have you ever come across The
Jefferson Bible? Phelps: The Jefferson Bible—and maybe you know this—is
Matthew, Mark, and Luke. And Thomas Jefferson, being the Deist, being the
pagan that he was, cut out all the supernatural from those three gospels.
Jefferson was a Deist; he was involved with the French Freemasons who were
involved in the French Revolution, and he was not here at the writing of
our Protestant Constitution. So, the Lord put him out of the
picture. Jefferson was just used to help with the Revolution—because the
Lord does use the unGodly for good things. But Jefferson copied much of
the Declaration Of Independence from the Mechlenburg
Declaration, written by Calvinistic Presbyterians of North Carolina,
when they seceded, when that county of Mechlenburg seceded from the
Colonies. Martin: Never heard of it. Phelps: Yes, you’ll find it in Presbyterian writings. You can
find it from D. James Kennedy; he has a thing on it. And Jefferson copied,
at the end: "...and to this end we devote our lives, our fortunes, and our
sacred honor." That was copied directly from the Mechlenburg Declaration.
Jefferson was a plagiarist; he was a high Freemason; and he was out of
here at the time of the writing of our Constitution. And the reason
why the people of Virginia did elect him to office was because he was a
State’s Rights man. He wanted limited powers in Washington, and that was a
good thing. And when Jefferson was elected, he undid everything the
king-president John Adams did, with his Alien & Sedition Laws, because
John Adams wanted to be a king, and Jefferson undid it, and Jefferson got
two terms for that. Martin: I’m looking at some things that are a little further
back now. The Secreta Monita. What’s the significance of that? Phelps: The Secret Instructions [excerpts at the end of this
interview] are the handbooks that are given to the professed Jesuits,
those under extreme oath. [The oath is presented in full at the
end of this interview.] And it tells them how to conduct their plans,
subjugating peoples and nations to the Jesuit General, and thus, to the
temporal power of the Pope. It tells how they are to deceive. It shows how
they are to swindle rich widows out of their fortunes, like they did with
Astor’s second wife who survived the Titanic catastrophe. It shows their
general approach on how to do things. This particular book cannot be known, and if it’s ever published, they
will deny it’s existence. But when you see the works that the Jesuits have
done, it’s in complete agreement with the Secreta Monita. There is a very interesting section in Edwin R. Sherwin’s book The
Engineer Core Of Hell, written in 1886 I believe—another suppressed
work. It’s usually in the archives of all the older libraries back here.
And he shows how this Secreta Monita was discovered in South
America by a Mason, and the Mason managed to escape to a lodge after being
shot. He turned the Secreta Monita over to the lodge, and then
these certain Freemasons saw the Secreta Monita. There are certain
low-level Freemasons who believe that the Jesuit Order is their enemy, so
that’s why it was taken to the lodge and then published. But the
high-level Masons, of course, work with them. The Secreta Monita
was discovered once that way. It was published in Holland. Then, in 1857,
reprinted by England. Martin: Pascal’s Provincial Letters had a devastating
impact on exposing the Jesuits. Why? Phelps: Blaise Pascal was a Huguenot, a French Calvinist. So
here we have another fearless man. He doesn’t fear death; he’s going to
tell the truth. So Blaise Pascal wrote a series of letters that were
written to and from provincials, and he wrote them in a satirical manner,
that of course excited that wonderful French mind. The French, of course,
came to the conclusion that this was absolutely the truth, and then they
moved to suppress the Jesuits again. But his Provincial Letters are
considered a classic. Blaise Pascal also wrote some other great works,
too. Martin: Pope Ganganelli-Clement XIV abolished the Order entirely
in 1773, and was murdered as a result. Phelps: Correct; he was poisoned. Martin: The Order was similarly abolished 39 times from
different kingdoms throughout Europe. It doesn’t take a genius to figure
out that something was terribly wrong with this group! Phelps: Right. Are all those people bigots? Are all those people
brainwashed bigots and fanatical Protestants who abolished the Jesuit
Order? You find the greatest resistance to the Jesuits in Catholic countries,
by Catholic monarchs. And that’s why the Roman Catholic monarchs and
nobility of today don’t dare resist them. The Kennedys won’t touch them.
The monarchs of Europe won’t touch them. The Hapsburgs won’t touch them,
because the Jesuits have vindicated their power in the French Revolution
and the Napoleonic Wars—well, then they went to suppress the Jesuits again
in Europe and they were, for the most part, kicked-out of Europe in the
1800s. All the nations of Europe banned them. Germany banned them in 1872.
And so, World War I and II, the second Thirty Years War, was pay-back for
this. And ever since then, nobody touches them. Pope Ganganelli abolished the Jesuits with a Papal Bull; the Jesuits
call it a "brief". It is not a brief; it is in the Library of the Bulls,
and it is called Dominic Ac Redemptor Nostor. That is the name of a
bull. And when he abolished them, he abolished them forever—that they were
not to talk about their abolition, that they were not to teach. He
confiscated all of their wealth and land and property. For the most part,
the Dominicans took it over, which is why the Dominicans had their penis
cut off during the French Revolution. That’s what the Jacobins did to
them. It was payback by the Jesuits: "You don’t dare take our property
from us, boy. And you don’t dare take Inquisition from us." Jacobins
killed nearly every Dominican in France. Martin: Why was the assassination of William of Orange so
significant? Phelps: Williams of Orange was the father of religious liberty.
William of Orange is the man who gave the Jews the freedom to come to
Amsterdam. And the Jews called Amsterdam, "the new Jerusalem". William of
Orange was a Catholic to begin with. Remember when he was in the forest,
hunting with the king of France, and the king of France lay bare to him
their plans to destroy all the Protestants in Holland, William kept
silent. And that’s why he was called "William the taciturn" or "William
the silent". So, he harbored all of this in his heart, and he went back to Holland
determined that he would deliver the Calvinists and the Protestants from
this annihilation. William went to Germany with his German wife, and he,
according to Motley in his The Dutch Republic, raised an army of
Germans and they did not succeed in liberating Holland. And so, it was the
Dutch themselves who joined William of Orange in an attempt to liberate
the country, which they ultimately did as the "wild beggars of the
sea". So, William was a great inspiration. He delivered flight from the siege
of the fanatical Roman Catholic Spanish, lead by the Jesuits, when the
Lord providentially delivered and sent a strong wind over the dikes, and
flooded the whole area, and flooded the Spanish soldiers. And then, after that happened, He sent another strong West wind and
blew the water back over the dikes. This is a historical fact! Why don’t
we hear this in history? For the same reason we don’t hear when Louis XIV
brought his army across the river into Holland to kill all those Dutch, in
1672, right around there, that the river, right where the army was
crossing, thawed out, and the whole French army went to the bottom of the
river, as a result of the prayers of those Protestants of Holland. We’re
not taught that either! The assassination of William of Orange was probably the second most
significant act of Jesuit dominance, next to the murder of Coligny at St.
Bartholomew’s Massacre. Because it was first St. Bartholomew’s massacre,
and then the murder of William of Orange. And, of course, William of
Orange was shot by a Jesuit-controlled assassin, Balthazar Girard, in his
own house. And the last words of William, of course, were: "God be
merciful to these poor people." Martin: What is the Royal Institute of International
Affairs? Phelps: The Royal Institute of International Affairs is the same
as the American Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The Royal Institute
runs England and the British Empire, what was once the extension of the
British, just as the CFR runs our country. They’re sister
organizations. Martin: Where are they based? Phelps: They’re based in London. Martin: And who is their head; do you know? Phelps: I don’t know right now. The John Birch Society wrote a
lot about that, and they did expose the CFR and the Royal Institute of
International Affairs. Allan Stang has written a lot about that. Martin: What was the "Gunpowder Plot" of 1605? Phelps: The Gunpowder Plot of 1605 was the Jesuits attempt to
destroy what William Howitt—and Howitt was the great writer who wrote A
Popular History Of Priestcraft, 1835—he said it was a Jesuit attempt
to destroy our Great King Solomon, King James I, along with the entire
Protestant Parliament. Because remember, Elizabeth I had expelled the
Jesuits from her empire, and if they were ever caught they were to be
drawn and quartered. After she died, the conspiracy went on there that went on with William
Cecil. They named Mary Queen of Scott’s son as the King of England, rather
than Elizabeth’s son, because Elizabeth had a son who was the Earl of
South Hampton, Wriothesley, and that was the son of Edward
Devere, who we know as William Shakespeare. There was no William Shakespeare. The man was Edward Devere. He ran the
Globe Theater. He was the Lord Great Chamberlain to Queen Elizabeth, and
he secretly had a son who was the Third Earl of South
Hampton. He was the rightful heir to the thrown, not King James VI of
Scotland. You can find all this documented in two great works: the first is
called Shakespeare Identified and the author is Looney. The
explosion of that book is called This Star Of England, written by
Carlton and Dorothy Ogborn, in 1952, and it’s a 1200-page work, and in it
they explain all the plays of Shakespeare, and that they are, in the words
of Hamlet: "A brief abstract and chronicle of the times." Nothing but
history. And then there’s another book, Wasn’t Shakespeare Someone Else?,
written by Tweeny, and in that book he evaluates the 150 sonnets. In those
sonnets Edward Devere put his name: Vere or Uvre or Vere—he puts his name
in acrostics throughout all the sonnets. And the last couple sonnets he
puts his name in double acrostics. It’s amazing, showing that he wrote the
sonnets. Martin: Why were the Jesuits so upset about the Edict of Nantes,
and what was it’s significance? Phelps: Ok, the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes—it can be
spelled Nantes or Nantz. Anyway, the Edict of Nantes was put forward by
King Henry IV. King Henry IV was a Roman Catholic, but he converted to
Protestantism and he became a Huguenot. But he was not allowed to take the
throne of France until he renounced his Protestantism. So, for the sake of
the kingdom, he renounced his Protestantism, and in 1610, I believe,
issued forth the Edict of Nantes. The Edict of Nantes guaranteed religious freedom to all the French.
That included the Protestant, Calvinist, Huguenots, which of course
included those who would have followed Admiral Coligny, who the Jesuits
murdered with that she-wolf, Catherine de Medici. With the Edict of Nantes
we have religious liberty in France. This cannot be. France is a
cornerstone of Jesuit power, so it cannot allow this to be in place. The
Council of Trent condemns it, because it’s freedom of conscience. So, after they murder Henry IV with Ravaillac, when they stabbed him
through his heart, according to Sully in his memoirs, they murdered Henry
IV for this, and also for attempting to reinforce the Dutch. They then, in
1685—when the Beatles are singing about the "Sun King" in their "white"
album, they’re singing about Louis XIV. And that’s telling you that the
Beatles are Jesuit-controlled. The Sun King, Louis XIV who reigned, who
rules over France for, I believe, 60 years, he, because of his Jesuit
confessor, Pere La Chaise, revokes the Edict of Nantes, and with that, no
more religious freedom in France. And then they sent their French dragons out and beheaded and killed
every Huguenot they could find, driving 500,000 Frenchmen out of the
country, the wealth of France, the manhood of France, all left for Holland
and England. That destroyed France. From then on, France became a nothing
nation. The French Revolution could never have happened had not the Revocation
of the Edict of Nantes taken place. Because now, there’s no Bible
in France. And to this day, the French have never published a French
version of the Textus Receptus. Number one, all French
Bibles have been produced in foreign countries, when they’ve been
translated from the Greek Textus Receptus into French;
France has never done it. That shows the Jesuit power over France to this
day. And the French have probably been the most manly, the strongest, the
most gracious, the most determined in kicking the Jesuits out of their
country. They’ve kicked them out, to my knowledge, three times—and again,
they come back, foment wars, kill off the rulers, etc. Drive Eugene Sue
into exile; he dies of a broken heart. Drive Calvin into exile; he can
never return to France. All the great Frenchmen are driven into
exile. So we have, as American patriots, we have a great camaraderie for the
French. They helped us in our American Revolution. And why did they help
us? Because they’ve been expelled from France. Why did Spain help us? Why
did they help finance our Revolution? The Jesuits had been expelled from
Spain. So payback came for Spain and France, for helping this heretic,
Protestant nation come into existence, with the Napoleonic Wars, when they
killed Louis XVI and drove the Bubons from the Spanish throne. That was
payback. Martin: For 30 years of war, from 1618-1648, you
state that the Jesuits, through Ferdinand II, killed-off 10 million
people. That’s quite a statement. Phelps: That statement comes from Ridpath’s History Of The
World, published in 1899. And that is his encyclopedia of his history
of the world. That was common knowledge in 1899. The 30 Years War was hell
on Earth for Europe. Two-thirds of Germany was brought back to Rome. It
was leveled, plundered, and destroyed. Wallenstein and Tilly were the fanatical Roman Catholic
generals who raped, pillaged, and plundered everything in their path. But
the Lord raised up certain great generals like Gustavus Adolphus from
Sweden. He was called the "Snow King" and he was the one who ultimately,
he paved the way for the victory of the 30 Years War. But without that Protestant victory of the 30 Years War, the peace of
Westphalia, which the Pope was not invited to, there would have
been no modern era as we know it today. According to any historian, the
modern era begins in 1648. That is when the 80 Year War in Holland ended
with Spain. That is when the 30 Years War ended with Ferdinand II and the
Protestants of Germany, and Sweden, and so-on. 1648 is the wonderful year in which the Modern Era began, when
inventors could go to Germany and say: "Well, you know, maybe the Earth
isn’t flat." And maybe Leeuwenhoek could invent the microscope in Holland,
and now, later on, James Clerk Maxwell, who was a Bible-believing,
Protestant Presbyterian, he can write his treatise called Electricity
And Magnetism, the father of what we know today about electricity and
magnetism. Now, science can blossom and bloom. Now we can have literature.
Now we can have great writers, like Sir Walter Scott, who writes great
works like Ivanhoe and Peveril Of The
Peak. Now we can have Charles Dickens, another Protestant, who writes
A Tale Of Two Cities, one of London and the other of Rome.
We have great literature surfacing as a result of the Modern Era. But the Jesuits, in their determination to destroy the Reformation and
the Modern Era and bring us back to the Dark Ages, seek to reverse the
effects of the Modern Era, and thus, what was brought about by the 30
Years War. And to know the 30 Years War is to understand the second 30
Years War, which started in 1914 and ended in 1945. Martin: In 1639, the Jesuits were also expelled from Japan.
Apparently the Jesuits never forgot that. Phelps: They never forgot it. For over 200 years they have been
expelled. And remember the words of Lincoln: "The Jesuits never forget nor
forsake." So, payback time was coming for Japan. The Emperor had expelled them,
so that dynasty was targeted. Ultimately, the Emperor would be destroyed
or his dynasty would end. And so payback time was the mass fire-bombings
by the American Air Force, financed by the Jesuits, as the Jesuits own
Lockheed, Boeing, McDonald-Douglas, and Grumman, and they used their B-29
to firebomb Japan to smithereens. You can get the fact that the
Jesuits control these aircraft companies from Avro Manhattan’s The
Vatican Billions. Martin: I’m trying to get a little more current here, but some
of this older stuff is also so fascinating, I’m going back and forth here.
Our readers are just going to have to be a little flexible in their
reading. (laughter) Phelps: Right. Martin: In 1649 there was the Irish Massacre. What was it, and
let’s discuss the hatred between the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland,
as a result of the Irish Massacre. Phelps: Ok. Of course, we believe in freedom of speech, freedom
of conscience, freedom of the press. That is an outgrowth of
Protestantism, because all Protestants were defending their right to
believe the Bible in the face of Rome’s expectations to believe the
priests and the decrees of the Popes. Many of the Irish were born-again. They came to know the Lord. Much
preaching was done up there. In fact, Patrick, of St. Patrick’s Day, was
no Catholic. He was a Protestant. And so, he was a great Protestant
preacher of Ireland, and many, many Irish came to know the Lord. And their
point of location was primarily in the North, in Northern Ireland, which
today is Ulster, Belfast, etc. Well, the Jesuits, in fulfilling their Bloody Oath that we are making
and waging relentless war on all Protestants, and all political liberals,
they hatched-out the plot to kill all the Irish Protestants in Ireland
with the O’Neil family. And I wonder if that O’Neil family was related to
Tip O’Neil? In 1641, the massacre began, carried out by Roman Catholic nobles and
the mobs in Ireland. When they started that massacre, it continued from
1641 to 1649. The massacre ended when they killed 150,000, but they still
taught the Catholic children to kill the Protestant children. So, Irish
Protestants were being massacred, enmasse, for 8 years. This is NEVER told whenever anybody is ever talking about Oliver
Cromwell, when Cromwell came up with his Puritan Army and
ended that, when he took Drogheda, and killed every living thing in
Drogheda—men, women, children, animal, everything. Ones say: "Oh, the beast Oliver Cromwell. Look what he did to
Drogheda!" What about those beasts killing those Irish Protestants for 8
years, bashing out the brains of the little babies, smashing them up
against the walls like they did, led by the priests? This was just like they did in Croatia with the Serbs in World War II,
when they gouged-out the eyes of all the Serbians, where one particular
priest had 23 kilos worth of eyes. They were doing the same thing to the
Irish Protestants. So, when Cromwell came up, and it was vengeance for the Irish Massacre,
and the Irish Massacre was NOT started by the Protestants, it was started
by the Jesuits according to Fox’s Book Of Martyrs. And you can find
the whole narration there, which was a classic that all Englishmen used to
read with the King James Bible.
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See Rev 2:9 &
3:9. These are the ones who claim to be "Jews", but are NOT
"Jews". They are the worshippers of Satan, and are his chosen
seed line on this earth to do HIS WILL, even as we are Jah's chosen
people called to do His!!! There is nothing new under the
sun. Satan can only counterfeit what Jah does, and he DOES DO
JUST THAT.